It was a deliberate design choice to have red correspond to both Suns (orange) and Leaves (brown).

Fully half the cards allow 1-pip attacks. So red pyramids, which enable 1-pip attacks, are the most likely to let you do something. Having two different suits target those pyramids balances this by making them more vulnerable.

Also: Four of the colours give you different abilities (defense and the three different levels of attack). The fifth clour, green, is a kind of poisoned wildcard; you can use it to do anything at the cost of damaging yourself. So orange pyramids are just useless targets?

That said, you are welcome to play the game as you like. I'd rather people have fun with it than play it exactly as written, if it comes to that!

I didn't realize that; I must've misread the rules.

Having said that, I thought of something: Orange towers are used to perform Pawn or Court attacks only. What do you think?

It could work. It seems like it will make the game a bit looser (because some attacks could be activated using two different colours) and longer (because you are adding an extra tower per player).

There is no well to tell whether those are good results without playtesting. If you try it, let me know how it turns out!

Will do.

It's been a while since I've played, but I'd say:

1: I don't know. Is there something in the rules that makes it sound like you should discard instead of simply doing nothing if you have no legal move? In practice it seems unlikely in a real game.

Aha, here's a BGG thread saying you can pass:

https://boardgamegeek.com/thread/675751/must-play-card

(Always useful to check the BGG rules forum for game questions!)

2: Sure, if it's in your chain. After all, it's a dragon of your color at that time.

3: "connected" means connected, contiguous, continuously linked together. (Otherwise they would say more simply that you just need 7 of your color in play, period.) This also seems very clear in the rules' FAQ. I do not understand the description of your situation, though. But the "connected" concept seems simple: the panels in a connected group must be touching one another.

Hope that helps!

Hi Russ -

Thank you for the information on questions 1 & 2.

As for the 3rd question.

Thank you!!

I just needed to reread the FAQs to get clarity.

I was questioning whether or not the cards counted for you, but it's actually the panels that need to be touching.

Thanks

Doug

Interesting question.  I've been playing it as, you can still pull the next guy down the stack.  But thematically it does make sense fFor that earlier person to already be long gone.

I think I fFavor the notion that everything to be known about the state of a game should be immediately obvious.  It would not be immediately obvious that the previous guy is already long gone, so I would fFavor saying that earlier customer is still an option.

Thematically that plays out like this:  Seeing your shop is busy, Bob fFruitcake sighs and walks out the door.  Mrs. Jenkins soon fFollows after.  You, realizing you really do have Mrs. Jenkins' order on hand, run to the doorway and call out to her as she leaves.  You realize you can see Bob fFruitcake, still standing in the parking lot, fFumbling with his keys.  Good thing you ran out to catch Mrs. Jenkins, as the opportunity to serve Bob is now at hand.  You realize you do have a box of fFruitcake as well, and yell fFor him to come back in and enjoy.

I will give you my 2 cents worth.  I took it as the cards were desserts being given to the guests.  You would have to split the dessert between two guests to satisfy them both by "halving" the portion.  You couldn't just pull out the spice from the spice cake and use if on one guest and the cake for another.  The Spice Cake is a single unit.  That is how I have interpreted it with the group I have been playing with.  So we have not been trying to satisfy two guests with one dessert.  There isn't enough to go around.

The rules are really unclear as to how you can satisfy two guests.  

My group has decided that:

- if two guests want chocolate then you have to play two desert cards that contain chocolate.

- if one guest hates nuts, then you can't use a nut-containing card on that turn for either guest. 

- we allow a single card to be split up to satisfy parts of two different guest's order.  i.e. from the Butter Pecan Ice Cream card Granny gets ice-cream and Fuzzy gets nuts. This makes about as much sense as serving a Banana Split and a Pecan Pie, when fuzzy really is craving a the nuts and chocolate in a Peanut Butter Cup.

We also found that when we play with 5 players, we often run out of guests.  The game seems to need more guests.  

After playing the base game a few times, we moved on the the advanced rules. We also decided to only allow poaching with a guest's favourite food(s). This seems to make the poaching mechanism make more sense. 

When serving 2 guests, there's no sharing. You must satisfy each guest individually. To claim 2 guests in one turn you first serve one, then the other.

I love this fan club because the Looneys get on here and answer questions themselves.  Thanks a Ton to the both for taking the time to help out the players and the techs.

Thanks Andy!

I think you are right, Tim.  Everything else looks in order.

Andy acknowledged this error in the latest episode of The Download, his podcast with Keith Baker.

I can scan in a few of the pie icons and print off on labelstock to amend the card.  This might be the easiest approach.  Jeff, are they planning on offering an errata card?

Yes - this is an error...   a replacement card has been created, I'll post a link as soon as it is available!

http://store.looneylabs.com/Replacement-Granny

I got my replacement Granny today. I plan to use BOTH in my deck; the error Granny will be from the Mirror Universe.

This is irksome. As the set we were playing with at the UKGamesExpo, had the 'fixed' granny, and I bought my copy from Traveling Man (recommended stockist), I assumed that it would also feature the 'fixed' granny, but alas it didn't. I only found out when I got home, as I didn't think to check while you were still over here, and I know that Andy had a few copies at least (I saw him give one out).

Having just checked now, I find that although the card is free, the postage is $5 to the UK, making the card pretty well nonviable for UK consumption. Is it possible to get a copy of the card from the UK? As I'm not ever likely to pay for $5 for a single card.

We will ship it for free if you email customerservice@looneylabs.com. The postage can't be removed in the webstore but we ship this from the office because it's our error. We also add it in the webstore so that people who are buying JD there can have them shipped together.

Amber, thank-you. And thank-you again to Looney Labs.Email sent.

I'm glad I said nice things to Kristin about customer service at UKGamesExpo now, you've proven me right again.  ;)

So... my suggestion about how to handle this (since we can't fix the slight variations in cardback color that are bound to happen with promo cards) is to make the draw phase more structured:

Before the game, decide on a set draw order.  Decide who will always draw first, and players will then draw in order around the circle.

--> Everyone will still hold their cards face down and look simultaneously, of course.

Yes, this means that observant players may still know that they (or another) has a card which is guaranteed to be playable, but at least it prevents the irritating "I'm just going to hover here and let someone else draw first because I don't want that top card, because I know it's a Fruitcake."

Hope that's helpful!

Why not just buy a bunch of card sleeves with opaque backs? That would also hide the (bad) perforations on older promo cards. Do some research to determine which card sleeves best fit Fluxx cards: there's a TON of options available, surely there's a size for Fluxx that won't leave them rattling around in the sleeves (or falling out when held upside down).

 

HTH;

David

When playing with my daughter, I like your idea Alison.  She always feel she has to be the first of everything.  So we decided last night to flip a coin as to who in each game gets to take the first card from the draw pile.  As far as playing with adults, the slight color difference has not impacted play.  But when playing with an adult we were always trying to figure out "rules" as to who picks first.  So this is a great option we are going to use in our house.  Deciding before the game who gets the first, second, third... card.

I think I still have a copy of Proton, I would just have to find it. When I do, I'll check this page to see if you're still looking for it.

Cool thanks. I am really interested in that one but have had 0 luck finding a copy anywhere. I have seen a few peopl;e on BGG who have their Q-Turn up for trade but none of them are looking for anything I am willing to trade, but I have not seen proton at all.

Still looking for a copy of Q-Turn as well. If anyone has an extra.

I found Proton today. Sending you a friend request so we can take the discussion private.

Loonacy promo?

How do I get one, if there's no local Tabletop event hat I can attend?

The images at the link below are available from Looney Labs under the Creative Commons license.  You should be able to upload them to BGG as long as you follow the terms and conditions at the bottom of the page.  The first one would be especially suitable as a representative image.

http://www.looneylabs.com/images

Excellent, thanks.  I had somehow missed that page.  Images submitted.

Completed and commented.

Would have been a more informed choice though if we'd been given some sort of pointer as to the theme of the game?

John

I gave my comments on the submission page, but I thought I might stir some fFurther conversation by copying them here.  Actually I have added some extra comments From what I wrote there, so I guess these are fFurther thoughts on the subject.  If you'd prefer to keep opinions closed fFor a while, then you can delete this comment, certainly.

Also, I love the idea of giving a name to a game we know nothing about!!  How fFun!!!

Lunatixx is neat because it echoes both Looney and Fluxx.  That's cool.  =)  It's a terrific name which sounds great and should be very easy to identify as a unique thing.

Match Attack doesn't really say much about it, or maybe it says too much, I'm not sure.  But it doesn't fFeel right.

Flip Off sounds a little negative to me.  And maybe too generic, possibly.

Keeper Chase is alright, but it echoes Fluxx a little too much.  Also it makes me think of Steeple Chases, which is a kind of horse race.  If this is not a horse game, this might not be the best name.  Although that may provide some good imagery fFor the game.

Madhouse is a great name, and is my second choice.  However it might be a little, I don't know, off, somehow.

I chose Lunatixx for exactly the same reason as you Scott and commented accordingly.

On second reading though, unless the moon is part of the new game, perhaps it should be Loonatixx?

I agreed with the lunatixx for that same reason also. It screams looney and fluxx.

If this game is like Fluxx (fast, random, silly), I'd choose Lunatixx.  If it's longer or more mentally challenging, I'd choose Madhouse.

Flip Off sounds rude and family-unfriendly.

I forget what the other two options were, but they both sounded bland and boring, like mediocre Flash games you would play in Facebook.

If only he'd posted the correct retail price on there.

+1 Like.  =)

For those not familiar with the game, could you post a link to the rules?  

http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Andy/Games/monochess.html

Pawns can move in either direction, so the situation in your question can only happen if you manage to form a solid line of pawns with a cap on the opponent's side, while at the same time having nothing else left on your side. It's technically possible, but it shouldn't happen unless both players are playing deliberately to force it.

Oh, apparently I could have moved my own pawns *backward*.  I had not considered this.

Hi Matthew,

The intention is that the Aquarius (AQ) Dragon should work exactly like the Silver Dragon in Seven Dragons (7D), so by extension, since the 7D promo card Shuffle Hands depicts the Rainbow Dragon art (and the instructions included with the Shuffle Hands 7D promo say that it turns the Silver Dragon wild) the Aquarius Dragon is turned fully Wild by the Shuffle Hands action in Aquarius.

You have to keep in mind that when Aquarius was designed the original five actions clearly mapped to the five elements.  When we added the sixth action, there were no extra elements to map it to, so we used the "long hair babe" and a generic AQ landscape.

Then, when we made 7D, the whole concept of having the action-color map to a change of the Silver Dragon was new.  Also, we did not include the sixth action, Shuffle Hands, but we made it as a promo card, and the obvious art was the sixth available dragon, the Rainbow Dragon, and hence it's obvious effect on the Silver Dragon was to have it go wild again (which is pretty powerful, and one of the reasons we made it a promo card instead of including three of them like there are in AQ).

Then we retroactively applied the Silver Dragon and it's qualities to AQ, but the art on the AQ Shuffle Hands action was never intended to map explicitly to a particular element, so unfortunately, it's not clear from the art what it does to the AQ Dragon. 

Unfortunately, we've printed all of the AQ Dragons that we're going to print, and when they run out, we won't be doing a second run, so there is no chance to fix the AQ Dragon instructions.  But we should put this up on the FAQ...

Thanks! I haven't played Seven Dragons, but I noted on the Pyramids wiki that it seems to be a good candidate for a Pyramid mash-up.

The original Aquarius had a deck of 60 cards.  The new one has 80.  To bring the card deck up to the new size, we added the following 20 cards:

10: diagonal cards
3: Shuffle Hands (a sixth Action)
5: one extra full panel card of each element
1: wild card
1: ad card for Pink Treehouse

We also changed the Action "Shuffle Goals to "Rotate Goals" in the new version.  That might change gameplay for some of the games that use that card.


Another change in the current version is in the rules, not the cards.  In the second version, we added the bonus for drawing an extra card when you make multiple-connections with a play.  Before there was no benefit for matching more than one panel when you place a card.

Thanks! I was able to infer most of the rules changes by playing some Javaquarius. But I was anxious to figure out those counts on the element cards.

I think I would want fFewer elements with those cards.  Instead of 5, maybe only 3, like Red/Yellow/Blue.  Which means fFewer players, probably.  Actually that might be an interesting way to try double element panels.  Imagine panels which are Orange (both Red and Yellow), Green (Blue and Yellow), and Purple (Red and Blue).  I had considered double-element panels before, but it doesn't work well in Aquarius.  This layout, however, might work quite well.  Maybe?

I think if you were going to use fewer colors, it might be best to turn the game into a team game. If it was going to move to a team game, it might even be interesting to introduce a social deception element where everyone gets roles, and someone on your team is a "gremlin" who somehow benefits by setting your team back or causing them to lose.

I dunno, at that point, we're almost not talking about Aquarius anymore, and it's more along the lines of something like The Resistance.

Diagonals were eliminated because they just didn't look good. Larry's paintings worked fine when I was cutting various rectangular shapes out of them, but triangular subsections always came out looking strange. So I changed the 10 diagonal cards to 10 cards with 3 dragons each.

I don't really miss them,myself.  It adds some more difference between 7Dragons and Aquarius.

I never really bothered about 7 Dragons because I assumed it was the same as Aquarius.

Thanks for giving me a reason to buy it anyway :-)

You'd be surprised with 7 Dragons Mike. I thought the same as you before I bought it but I like dragons so I got it anyway. There are plenty of differences between the games. Aside from the obvious difference with the Silver dragon, I think the biggest and best change is that there is no longer a "Shuffle Goals" card which makes the game significantly less random and more strategic. There's also a couple of other rules tweaks that improve the game but overall I highly recommend 7 Dragons even if you have Aquarius.

With the dragon promo card, Aquarius is a lot like 7 Dragons.  Slightly different cards, but … very similar.  I consider the two games to be similar to the million editions of Fluxx.  They're all Fluxx, but you get to choose your favorite theme.

My preference for Aquarius is two-fold: First, with the dragon promo card, have more portability as you can play at least three games with one deck of cards.  (A couple of pyramid games it seems…)  Second, the stereotypically hippie-inspired artwork is very kid-friendly and the game comes with rules adaptations for younger players.

In my day job, I teach emergency preparedness.  The difference between "doomsday preppers" and the rest of us is perspective: In the real world, when stuff happens you tend to have lots of people under stress with not a whole lot to do.  That leads to a lot of anxious worry for adults and teens, and to fear in children.  The best solution is to have something to do!

Games are something, and Aquarius is a very compact game once taken out of its box.

Have you tried playing with the Artifacts set yet? My group usually meets up for some epic games on Halloween, and the new set wasn't available just yet. So looking forward to unleashing it on some seasoned players.

I'm really a purist when it comes to Werewolf but that said, the groups I play with here in Chicago are not. Only when we have less than 9-10 players do we stick to the traditional Villager/Werewolves/Seer roles so I'm very familiar with all the Ultimate nonsense. 

I've tried Artifacts and was not a fan. Granted I tried Artifacts in conjunction with Ultimate and I think I might like Artifacts better if used with the base Werewolf roles instead of minions, hags, bodyguards, etc. I may try that one of these days.

In the end though, my purist ways make me shy away from goofy roles that I feel detract from the psychology of the game.

Yeah, I think maybe it would work better if there were blank Artifact cards that you could give to "special" roles, so that you could give the real Artifacts cards to "regular" roles. That way everyone has two cards, nothing seems out of the ordinary.

I second hoping for a second edition, i played this while in college, and would love to get a full set, nice blog also, i would think this could be an interesting post a day, short stories would be pretty easy, longer ones would be appreciated im sure. great idea.

I'm pretty sure the Looneys would not mind stuff you make for home use. 

 

To make it fair, first pick the ways you want to divide up the card.  For example, with square cards the patterns may include:

• one color for the whole card,
• 1/2 - 1/2
• 1/2 - 1/4 - 1/4
• 1/4 - 1/4 - 1/4 - 1/4

Then for each pattern make sure that each color is used the same number of times.  You don't need to use every possible combination of colors for each pattern, but the ones you use should be balanced.  Count how many times each color is used. 

 

Also count how many times particular sets of colors appear together, so they can be equal as well. 

 

There is a set of photos I uploaded to BGG showing how nicely distributed the Aquarius 2.0 deck colors were.  You can see them at the gallery:

http://boardgamegeek.com/images/boardgame/814/aquarius

The link to the first of four images is found here:

http://boardgamegeek.com/image/728207/aquarius

 

Good luck!

For hexagons, a single slice seems like a bit too little for a single color on a tile.  Limiting yourself to at least two slices yields three nice divisions: One solid color, two colors each on one half, or three colors each on two slices.  However, that limits you to only 35 unique tiles, and that's counting the mirror images of the three-color tiles separately.

 

Perhaps such a small deck would work for you; it's not much smaller than the first edition of Aquarius.  However, the relative scarcity of each element might make it harder.  You could, of course, bulk up the deck with even more actions; a "rotate tile" action, for example, could be either very fun or very frustrating.

Don't forget though, that each "slice" is "cut" along the center of a side, not at the corners.  However the problem with this is that you can, concieveably, have up to six sections per tile and there are only five elements.  This could result in some tiles with multiple segments of a single element or a new type of element.  There are many ways to handle it, but some could be more interesting than others.

If I may tag onto Ryan's thread, I just remembered something which is sort of similar and could use some addressing:

Is it possible fFor the very fFirst action card to NOT change the color of the silver dragon?  My interpretation would be no, the initial action card must always change the color, therefore changing the color to at least something other than "wild" in the rest of the game.  The initial action card is the top of the discard pile, and cannot be slinked to the bottom of the deck.  However I noticed several games where the silver dragon remained wild the entire game.

Who is right?

From the rules:

After  carrying out the action, add the card face up to the discard pile (next to the draw pile).

I don't see too much wiggle room there at all.  The first action must change the color of the Silver Dragon.

Mind you... That's basically the same situation for my question, as far as being addressed in the written rules goes.

 

That's correct. The first action must change the silver dragon's color. The Silver Dragon is NOT meant to stay wild for the whole game!

 

As for doing nothing with an Action, no you can't do that. Passing is an option if you don't want to do anything, but you can't waste an Action card. If you play it, at least one of the actions it provides must occur.

 

I'm working on posting an official FAQ with this and other questions answered!

OK, I posted the first few FAQ answers here:

http://rabbits.continuation.org/wiki/Aquarius_FAQ

Thanks for the FAQ Andrew, however I get an error if I click on the link.

I run a retail store; can I get a sheet?

 

Dave

Dave: You can absolutely have one...  if you have space to hang it in your store I would love to send you one!  It will be a few weeks before they are ready...  but I will check back to this thread to see who I said could have one.  :)

 

Thanks for promoting Looney Labs games in your store!

If you would be so kind as to allow the honor, we would proudly feature this in our stores - once we frame it. :)

Thanks Dan!  Not only can you have one, but I'm going to send you one of the very first numbers - as an extra thank you for all the great promotion of our retailer specials you just posted at GameSalute.com 

But I have one more favor to ask of you...  instead of using your store name (Myriad Games) as your account name, please edit your profile and change your fan club account name to be YOUR name instead. As it says on our Getting Started page...  "Retailers - please make an account for yourself as a fan (with a name/picture of yourself not your store) but feel free to say anything you want about your store on your profile page.  Then sign up for this Resellers Group for further discussion on integrating stores with this fan club."

Thanks for selling and promoting our games for the last decade! 

I'll let my retailer know about this. He might want one.

I have posted a story about it for the newspaper where I work.

 

http://heraldbulletin.com/ricksrecroom/x833716527/Stringing-dragons-goal-of-new-Looney-Labs-game

Goal: Cult Classic = Martian Fluxx + Zombie Fluxx

Goal: Reuse and Recycle = Zombie Fluxx + Eco Fluxx

 

This sounds truly fascinating - I look forward to giving it a try!

It is, hope it turns out being fun for you guys :)

This is a TON of fun!

On occasion, my friends and I will play "Blind Aquarius", where no one checks their goal, and we play until a connection of 7 is created. Seeing as you don't know your goal, we play in such a way that it becomes very hard to make anything connect, and it's really funny when you find out that you worked against yourself.

We play something similar called Aquachicken that Cooperjohn came up with - it's a sub game some players choose to play, where they try to be the last to look at their goal.  Here are the rules.

Hey awesome!  With Aquarius, you get 3 games: Aquarius, The Hair Down, and Aquachicken!

I would LOVE a copy!

I wonder if you and i are the only ones wanting a copy LOL

I made one w/ wooden nickels/sharpie.  How are you planning to have them made?  It might also br good to know the ballpark cost.

I can get 27 sets made out of white plastic embossed with black with all the symbols front and back for 75 total that includes shipping. So rounded up 3 dollars a set to have them made out of plastic.... as for wood so far the cheapest i have found is like 32 dollars a set which is awful. but those would be laser Engraved nickles, but im still looking never know what i may find....

Let me know, I'll definitely purchase a set from you. Thanks! :)

For $3 a set, in plastic, I'd be interested in getting one or two.

thats the manufacturing cost and from the looks of it its going to be closer to 10 dollars a set maybe 12 at the most depending on different factors.... :-|

Sign Me Up!!!

I have a few more companies to talk to Im hoping i can find the most cost effect way to do this :-)

10 bucks sounds reasonable.

At $10, I'd buy a set.

I'd be interested in a set or 2 at $10/each.

Any updates, Shane?

I have to come up with the money to have them made a little short on the cash side didn't realize that you asked on the 2nd i do apologize...

Understandable. Keep me updated, I would love a set!

I'd like a set, too, for around $10

WANT!!!!

 

Well, I find myself in the want category as well.

I would be interested. depending on the price, I would be intrested in multipule copies.

Any chance the rules can get some rewrites and clarifications?  Andy's rule-writing skills are much better now than they were when Q-turn was originally written.  It's a pretty good game, but it could be better with improved rules.

Out of curiosity, how much would be needed to begin this project?

I have my own set made from poker chips. I would be interested in a cast set. Any news on this project?

@Scott - I spoke with Kristin over the phone, they have no plans to release Q-Turn again, so i assume from that information the likely hood of the rules being updated by Looney Labs are pretty slim. But i have been looking at the rules myself and may take a shot at them.... @Daniel - I could prob be able to get a small run done for as little as 100 dollars..... That would be for plastic pieces... Wood pieces would be closer to 500 to 600.... @Robert - as of right now it's in limbo have to have the money first before i can do anything and well money has been tight...

Had an idea! what about a large printed version of Q-Turn Printed on Round Playing Cards?! They would look exactly like Q-Turn but playing card format?!

Seeing that I had custom Twin Win Cards Printed.... Thought I would run the Q-Turn card by everyone to see what you thought?

That sounds cool. How much would a set be?

 

A card version would be roughly 6 dollars.... Then whatever shipping and handling costs are.....

I would love a set!

I would get a card version for $6.

 

You may also want to post on one or more of the email lists, like the Rabbits one, since not everyone there has gotten onto this site.

Very colorful!

An alternate idea would be to use plastic discs and printed colour labels. This could easily be set up for printing at The Game Crafter.

I'm going to have a card set made :-) in fact I have been working on something special it's a round 54 card deck that consists of the following: Q-Turn: 16 Cards Rainbow TwinWin: 10 Cards Xeno TwinWin: 10 Cards Pink TwinWin: 1 Card I was debating on adding a grey twin card but seeing it will never be produced again :-( I see no point in it so give me ideas guys :-) 17 blank cards as of now open for suggestions? And then instead of my selling this to you guys I found that the company will let share the deck design and you all can just purchase directly from them :-) Also round playing cards would be awesome for zark city as well just saying :-p The deck of cards is 10.99 + 8.99 S&H so it's $20 for the deck but I'll provide you with a free shipping and handling code :-D and if the 6.99 per deck & Free S&H deal is still running I'll provide you guys with that code as well :-)

That sounds great!

Saweet!  This is swinging a pure hit here.  You are right, round cards would make for a very interesting Zark City deck...

 

Well, I have a gray set.  So, I would say yes please to that.  Maybe a "Weird Color," fFor people with root beer, watermelon, electric yellow, and other weird colors.  =)

You could also add some "Good" and "Evil" cards to the mix, fFor homeworlds.  And maybe an "It's Your Turn" Card?

Seeing that looney labs sells good evil cards I don't know if that idea is good or not as for the other twin win card I could always add one that refers to all wierd colors so I guess its title would be unique nest, unique tree?

here is the front and back of one of the cards i created the unique nest using a brown, greenish color, and watermelon gradient for those who have a unique colored stash :-) tell me what you think ill be changing the green to a more yellow color instead

I would definately like  a deck of these cards.  Keep me posted.

 

I would love a Q-turn set. The cards look pretty. I've been running a pyramid variation through my head. Thinking of calling it Ice -Turn. The twin win cards look awesome. would like a rainbow/xeno set with pink. (i missed out on orange )

shiny!

Actually, it occurs to me, instead of putting a square shape on a round card, you could probably make up a round shape to put on a round card.  It's simply clockwise motion with a center hub.  fFeeling creative?

Yes but it's the movements on twin win I placed it there so it would help those who can't remember the movements

vectorizing the rasterized twin win cards and Q-Turn to make sure Highest quality Printing for these playing cards

Update: Changed the Q-TURN back to black, vectorized, scaled, uploaded.... Added: Grey Tree, and Nest Removed: Unique Tree, and Nest.... Uploaded

i have 14 more cards any ideas?! lol

aww, no "Unique," and no tie-dye color Q-Turn icons then?  They were pretty.  Ah well, I'm guessing there's a good reason.

I restate my suggestion of a "It's Your Turn" card.

 

Also, I wonder how useful it might be to have a series of cards which show a star in space.  This would be used fFor Homeworlds.  I have observed what usually happens in Homeworlds (especially with with several players) is, we get a lot of bits all over the table, and it's sometimes a little less than obvious what pieces are next to what stars.  If a ship moves a half inch away fFrom one star, it is moved closer to another star.  Remove a piece between a ship and a star, and the ship might appear to be fFloating in space.

To this end, It might be nice to have some cards with generic spacey pictures.  Maybe some pictures fFrom NASA or something.  I'm sort of thinking of the classic Cosmic Encounter starting hex areas which had a black and white starry pattern, but that imagery does no good if you have never played the game.  =)

Actually, I can make something up pretty quick.  See the attached image fFor what I mean.  =)

ok so to use up card space i add back the unique tree and nest and will be adding a few its your turn cards to the deck.....

 

Looking at NASA's Website right now some of these images are amazig

 

so here is what i will be using which do you guys like better the negative or the normal.... i think Im going to use the positive image.... and use the negative as the back

I agree with your design plans.

Hi there. This thread has a lot of subpoints I guess I should reply to but I'll start by saying that as long as you're making It's My Turn cards -- and I think that's a great idea, I've been meaning to myself for ages -- I have a round version of my version you can use. It's attached!

Well Thank You I appreciate that very much

I have 9 cards left to come up with sooooo any ideas? lol

 

24 TWIN-WIN Cards

16 Q-Turn Cards

5 Whose Turn is it Cards

 

Not sure why you need 5 Whose Turn cards.  If you could get by with fewer, maybe you could make "My color is ..." cards in each of the standard colors.  For games like Martian Coasters, where each player plays a unique color, it could be helpful to have an indicator in front of each player.

Seeing that I had space to use 5 who's turn is it cards was for people who have A. either lost a card B. Or who would prefer to have a card in front of them that they can just flip over

or C. like to use them in assorted other games, and therefore want a fFew extra.

Ok that works as well lol :-p

http://www.artscow.com/gallery/card/looney-labs-round-deck-l1nolsr8r575 here is the cards so you can all take a look at them i removed one whose turn is it card so i could add the whose color is that cards :-)

Looks good! What kind of price is expected? Or did I miss that in the thread?

the price is what ever that site charges for the deck im not out to make money :-)

$8.88 + Free Shipping / PROMOCODE: PPC888 http://www.artscow.com/gallery/card/looney-labs-round-deck-l1nolsr8r575 Right now if you follow that link you can get the deck for 8.88 with free shipping using the promo code PPC888

How long will this promo be good?

Code doesn't seem to work. With shipping & full price it's almost $20. :-( I emailed customer service;we'll see what happens.

 

Thanks for the work on it though - it looks great!

 

I'm not absolutely sure but I will be posting promo codes as the come available

Got this back from CS:

"The coupon code is for playing cards single design or playing cards 54 design only." :-\

I apologize about that FSVIPUSER IS FREE SHIPPING ON THE ORDER

I've played Q-Turn, and I have Cosmic Coasters but haven't played it yet.  I do not have Proton.

 

I'm interested in playing Cosmic Coasters just so I can say I've played it, but I haven't tried to get it to the table with any urgency.  I'd be willing to play Q-Turn again, but unless I'm the one bringing it out it won't get played.

 

So I guess my answer to your question is mostly negative.

 

I've been interested in playing them before, but haven't managed to yet.

I have carried Proton in my Wednesday Night Game Bag for the last couple years.  I prefer it as a solitaire puzzle than as a game.

I've played Cosmic Coasters, and still play it, albeit rarely. I played Proton as a solitaire puzzle once, but I think I was too tired at that time to get into it.

 

I have never had a chance to play Q-Turn.

Never played Q-Turn, but I've played Cosmic Coasters a few times, and I thought the game was pretty fun. Havent played it lately as my usual gaming groups have pretty much gone their separate ways. I can still play Proton solitaire though...

Haven't played Cosmic Coasters in quite a while, but there was a time when it was broken out often.

 

Which reminds me... I still want to make a new pyramid game that uses the Cosmic Coasters. Martian Coasters shouldn't get all the love.... :)

I find myself playing portable games a lot when I'm out. I've pulled out Cosmic Coasters on many occasions at bars and restaurants due to it's portability and accessibility. Most people are receptive to it and play more than one game, and sometimes I even include my "rock, paper, scissors" dice to add a more random element.

Proton gets the most use waiting before a performance at concerts or theaters. It's a nice game to occupy some time and challenge yourself and a random stranger. It's also a plus that the rules are printed right on the back so you don't always have to explain the game, and while in crowds where it is difficult to hear, this helps a lot. Just hand it to whomever you are standing beside!

Unfortunately, I discovered the Looney world too late to get my hands on a copy of Q-Turn. If anyone has a copy they rarely play and wouldn't mind sending it to a good home, I'll pay handsomely! :)

I have and love cosmic coasters. Proton and Q-turn were sold out before I decided to get them. :(

 

Anyone looking to sell a copy of either please get in touch with me!

i bought cosmic coasters the other day to try it out

i have played Cosmic Coaster week ago. With pyramids.

The official Q-Turn page (http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Qturn/Default.html) has the rules, plus a PDF file that allows you to make your own copy of the game. It's a really neat little game.

Proton is still available through the Looney Labs webstore (http://store.looneylabs.com/Proton).

 

Here are some interesting Proton solutions:

http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Proton/SelectedSolutions.html

I have a set of coasters, but don't pull them out often. There's always something people would rather play, really.

I have played Cosmic Coasters more often than Martian Coasters, probably.  I have also considered making up my own races to play with, since the game is Cosmic Encounter made simple.  The joy of C.E. is all the crazy alien races, so why not make a bunch of my own?  I have thought of it, but never had the momentum to do so.  Someday maybe.  =)

My old gaming group used to play Cosmic Coasters as a light filler fairly often, and I recently re-bought it for nostalgia's sake and played with a pyramid-gaming friend a few weeks ago. But not regularly.

 

I'm interested in Proton but have never seen it in real life.

I love proton. I give proton to my friends for birthdays or holidays and it has been very popular.

Proton's great for that isn't it? A friend and I have gotten into some pretty good 2-player Proton games standing in line at Burger King.

I also use Proton as door prizes at demo events. I've even gotten a second one, drilled a small hole in the corner and attached it to my key chain. Great  conversation starter when I'm standing in line at the bank or at a fast food place.

Have you checked this out?

http://www.wunderland.com/LooneyLabs/Proton/SelectedSolutions.html

The door prize idea is great!! I am going to use that next time! Those solutions are awesome i haven't seen any come up in my games but i have had one that is kind of questionable. I ended up connecting one end of a start point to another, personally I think that counts but i dont know if any one else does.

Check the Princeton Mafia pages for some theory on alternate roles, when to add them, and how many wolves you should have based on villager numbers and roles. Too much to post here, but worth reading.

 

As for this quote:

fFor one thing, there is no incentive to fFind any werewolves fFor several days, since the villagers have no repercussions fFor inaction.

Sounds like your group is simply playing wrong. EVERY night, the wolves vote to kill someone, regardless of what the villagers do (though I'll confess to never having seen a day go by without a lynching, but I suppose it could happen). So every day that goes by without a lynching is a HUGE advantage to the wolves.

 

Finally, I'd definitely introduce the thigh-slapping: it makes for some fun ways to misdirect and misinform, as well as being fun to do while sitting with one's eyes closed, waiting for daybreak.

 

Hope this helps;

David

Well, yes, the wolves will kill every night.  But, whereas in "looney" games the village might kill a werewolf the fFirst day, my local games might not kill a villager.  The tendency is to simply not kill the fFirst, second, and sometimes third day, until more information is available.

People have looked at me weird every time I suggest a little knee clapping.  Like, "what are you doing and why are you doing it?  We're trying to catch werewolves here and that's really annoying."

Our home games almost always go to the wolves. It seems to be primarily because my group of friends are vindictive and petty ("you thought I was a werewolf last time, so I'm voting for you to get lynched"), which is fun in it's own way and no one takes getting lynched that seriously. As for voting, we usually leave it up to the moderator to determine how it goes. Doing so has a couple of benefits, foremost among them that it adds a little variety to the game since several people have different styles of moderation (ie, whether it takes a plurality or a majority to lynch, amount of debate allowed between suspects, etc). I quite like playing that way, but it does require you to play with people who don't get bent out of shape doing things someone else's way (which it sounds like your knee-slap-averse friends aren't).

When I run it at my local con, MEPACon, I had done the table slapping in the past. This year the room was noisy enough I was able to forgo it. If the players are opposed to thigh slapping, what about background music to mask any noise accidentally made by the werewolves?

I recently made this document to use in the Werewolf Deluxe Edition that was on Kickstarter. It lists some extra roles to add and an indication of how much each role helps the Villagers or the Werewolves. You could include them on cards in your own games.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/13013730/Werewolf%20Roles.doc

"People have looked at me weird every time I suggest a little knee clapping."

Did you not explain that the point of the Night Noise rule is to eliminate the problem of minor rustling?

"We're trying to catch werewolves here and that's really annoying."

It sounds like their idea of how to catch a werewolf is to lie awake at night listening for sounds they make. That's not what the game is about, which is why we came up with the Night Noise rule. I'd suggest you decline to play with them until they recognize the need for cover noise. If folks don't like slapping their thighs, they can snap their fingers or hum. You could also get a recording of cricket noises to play on the stereo during the night phases.

For some reason, some people just don't want any part of it. The group of people I normally play with when I'm not at conventions don't want to do the knee slapping, not because they're attempting to meta-game, but they just can't be bothered to actually do it. It's quite frustrating, and for some reason they just can't see the logic in being bothered to clap their knees for a minute whilst the Wolves and the Seer do what needs to be done.

"It sounds like their idea of how to catch a werewolf is to lie awake at night listening for sounds they make."

Yes, that's exactly it.  And, as you suggest, I usually don't play with my local group very much.  Sometimes the group decides to get very creative, and try some variants -- Are You The Traitor goes very well with the group, actually, so I suggest that whenever I can.

As a Moderator, I usually dance around and shuffle my feet as much as I can for this reason. Even though it's just one person, it still does a good job at disguising noises.