I didn't think the initial post was an idiotic thing. The argument that followed ( I refer to the whole not any individual post) was somewhat silly and did have that 'Here we go again' feeling to it, similar to the mailing list v forum discussion that seems t erupt every so often. I can say that I am not as vexed by top posting as others. One reason though is I don't get the digest. I use gmail which threads automatically and helpfully moves the thread to the location of the most recent reply in the date sorted inbox. I have in the past subscribed to some digests and found them in general to be too confusing but sometimes necessary (until gmail that is). I am not trying to advertise for the google folks here. David made a request if you wish to comply do, if not, don't.