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[Something] Re: Something Digest, Vol 26, Issue 2

  • From"Carlton Noles" <carlton.noles@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateFri, 5 Oct 2007 12:27:51 -0400
The Canterbury Tales are none too tame as well. However that wasn't until senior English. We saw Zeffirelli's (sp?) Romeo and Juliet earlier in school of course there was only a naked male backside IIRC. One of the teachers joked about a girl running round to the other side of the screen trying to see the front. I am always surprised that so many adults object to sexual content and nudity in films their teens watch but see no harm in in gruesome murder and misogyny. Maybe surprised isn't the right word, disappointed seems to fit better.

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Today's Topics:

   1. RE: A good reason and place to buy comics this month...
      (Atwood, Robert C)
   2. RE: A good reason and place to buy comics this month...
      (Joseph Pate)
   3. RE: A good reason and place to buy comics this month...
      (Christopher Hickman)
   4. Re: A good reason and place to buy comics this month...
      (Laurie J. Rich)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 17:52:31 +0100
From: "Atwood, Robert C" <r.atwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Subject: RE: [Something] A good reason and place to buy comics this
        month...
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Weird, I did not see the original news story yet  ...

When I was in grade 9, we were encouraged to go to see the stage play
'Equus' by Peter Shaeffer, and the theater presenting it offered
significant discout for highschool students.

There is nudity in that play !   And other potentially objectionable
things like  insanity , violence, singing of television commercial
jingles, ..



> -----Original Message-----
> From: something-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:something-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> Laurie J. Rich
> Sent: 04 October 2007 16:04
> To: General Wunderland.Com Discussion List
> Subject: [Something] A good reason and place to buy comics
> this month...
>
> Heard via boingboing.net...
>
> "Dan from Silicon Valley's Hijinx Comics writes,
>
>     I own and operate a comic book shop in San Jose, CA which was
> recently voted best comic shop in Silicon Valley. I write free comic
> retailing software and I also run an online graphic novel store called
> ComicBookShelf.com .
>
>     The recent teacher ousting over Eightball #22 was a real wakeup
> call that there is a lot of work to do on making the public understand
> what a vital and important artform comics can be. A world where an
> educator loses their job for recommending Dan Clowes is a world I
> don't want to live in!
>
>     That's just one of the reasons I'm proud to announce that
> ComicBookShelf.com will donate 5% of every online sale to the Comic
> Book Legal Defense Fund which supports comics-related first amendment
> cases.
>
>     We're also donating an additional 5% to the Hero Initiative which
> helps get financial help to golden age comic artists who never made
> any royalties from their priceless creations.
>
>     Furthermore, until the end of October 2007 we will double the
> donation to both organizations, meaning 20% of every sale will go to
> these worthy organizations.
>
>     Shipping is always free anywhere in the US and we support Google
> checkout for safe and secure payment processing. We carry a wide array
> of books and our open source bookstore recommendation algorithms let
> you rate books and get recommendations. Kind of like Netflix does, but
> for graphic novels."
>
> Laurie
>
> --
> "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
> signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not
> fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."
> President Dwight D. Eisenhower
> April 16, 1953
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 10:29:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joseph Pate <jpate@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [Something] A good reason and place to buy comics this
        month...
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My wife just told me about a post to one of the online forums she
frequents, wherein a local teacher showed The Passion of the Christ
to 15-year-old high school students without any parental consent or
notification.

Regardless of where you stand on the whole Christian thing, PotC
is one of the most violent movies ever made, and I'm including
Quentin Tarantino films in that mix (Roger Ebert said it was the
most violent movie he's ever seen).  At the very least, it has an
R rating, and by definition, parents are supposed to give the OK
(or not), before a minor watches a R-rated film.  I know those are
only the MPAA ratings, not US law, but I think it's safe to say
it's a reasonable standard for schools to use.  Personally, I have
no problem with violence in films -- but I'm 37 and it's an informed
choice.  No, I do not show violent films to my 4-year-old son.

>From my tone (i.e. the above is a Bad Thing), this is not to say
that the above teacher should be disciplined or fired or whatever
for wanting to show the film, but certainly, without allowing
students to opt out and/or letting parents know that a controversial
film is in the neighborhood, IMHO, some sort of reprimand (at least)
is justified.

To be perfectly honest, I am often of the opinion that people who
frequently take offense, should be given plenty of offense to take,
but I do recognize that reality is not for everyone  ;-)  and more
seriously, anyone who can get through life with minimal exposure to
others' hate, prejudice, intolerance, etc. -- more power to 'em

I seem to be rambling now, so I'll just say, thanks for the post,
and as I am [currently] a San Jose local, I'll look up Hijinks
some time; maybe they can be my new FLGS (if they are also a GS).

Cheers,
         Ankhst

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> Weird, I did not see the original news story yet  ...
>
> When I was in grade 9, we were encouraged to go to see the stage play
> 'Equus' by Peter Shaeffer, and the theater presenting it offered
> significant discout for highschool students.
>
> There is nudity in that play !   And other potentially objectionable
> things like  insanity , violence, singing of television commercial
> jingles, ..
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: something-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto: something-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
> > Laurie J. Rich
> > Sent: 04 October 2007 16:04
> > To: General Wunderland.Com Discussion List
> > Subject: [Something] A good reason and place to buy comics
> > this month...
> >
> > Heard via boingboing.net...
> >
> > "Dan from Silicon Valley's Hijinx Comics writes,
> >
> >     I own and operate a comic book shop in San Jose, CA which was
> > recently voted best comic shop in Silicon Valley. I write free comic
> > retailing software and I also run an online graphic novel store called
> > ComicBookShelf.com .
> >
> >     The recent teacher ousting over Eightball #22 was a real wakeup
> > call that there is a lot of work to do on making the public understand
> > what a vital and important artform comics can be. A world where an
> > educator loses their job for recommending Dan Clowes is a world I
> > don't want to live in!
> >
> >     That's just one of the reasons I'm proud to announce that
> > ComicBookShelf.com will donate 5% of every online sale to the Comic
> > Book Legal Defense Fund which supports comics-related first amendment
> > cases.
> >
> >     We're also donating an additional 5% to the Hero Initiative which
> > helps get financial help to golden age comic artists who never made
> > any royalties from their priceless creations.
> >
> >     Furthermore, until the end of October 2007 we will double the
> > donation to both organizations, meaning 20% of every sale will go to
> > these worthy organizations.
> >
> >     Shipping is always free anywhere in the US and we support Google
> > checkout for safe and secure payment processing. We carry a wide array
> > of books and our open source bookstore recommendation algorithms let
> > you rate books and get recommendations. Kind of like Netflix does, but
> > for graphic novels."
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> > --
> > "Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
> > signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not
> > fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."
> > President Dwight D. Eisenhower
> > April 16, 1953
> > _______________________________________________
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Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 10:56:49 -0700
From: Christopher Hickman <tophu@xxxxxxx>
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On Thursday, October 04, 2007, at 12:54PM, "Atwood, Robert C" <r.atwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>Weird, I did not see the original news story yet  ...
>
>When I was in grade 9, we were encouraged to go to see the stage play
>'Equus' by Peter Shaeffer, and the theater presenting it offered
>significant discout for highschool students.
>
>There is nudity in that play !   And other potentially objectionable
>things like  insanity , violence, singing of television commercial
>jingles, ..

Yeah, when I was in school they took us to Portland to see Romeo and Juliet on stage, with boobies and all. ;)  I can tell you that at fourteen, I thought it was awesome. :)


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2007 13:05:05 -0500
From: "Laurie J. Rich" <knitmeapony@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Something] A good reason and place to buy comics this
        month...
To: "General Wunderland.Com Discussion List"
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I had a phenomenal English teacher my 10th grade year (I liked her so
much I manipulated my schedule to have her in 11th and 12th as well).
One of the things that she had us do was break down the Shakespeare
that we read (R&J and Julius Caesar, of course, but she also gave us
Coriolanus and, if memory serves, Othello that year) and together, in
class, write summaries of important sections that were as salacious
and plain-language as we liked.

15-year-olds never studied a text so hard as we did, looking for an
excuse to reference genitalia, slang, and scatological humor out loud
in front of an authority figure.

Peace,

Laurie

On 10/4/07, Christopher Hickman <tophu@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Thursday, October 04, 2007, at 12:54PM, "Atwood, Robert C" < r.atwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Weird, I did not see the original news story yet  ...
> >
> >When I was in grade 9, we were encouraged to go to see the stage play
> >'Equus' by Peter Shaeffer, and the theater presenting it offered
> >significant discout for highschool students.
> >
> >There is nudity in that play !   And other potentially objectionable
> >things like  insanity , violence, singing of television commercial
> >jingles, ..
>
> Yeah, when I was in school they took us to Portland to see Romeo and Juliet on stage, with boobies and all. ;)  I can tell you that at fourteen, I thought it was awesome. :)
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"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired,
signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower
April 16, 1953


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