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Re: [Icehouse] Four-house Zendo

  • From"Subhan Tindall" <subhan.michael@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateFri, 16 Jun 2006 16:23:44 -0700
On 6/16/06, Andrew Plotkin <erkyrath@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jun 2006, Christopher Hickman wrote:

>> "Contains at least one vertical piece in your favorite color" is OK
>> if everyone is OK with player-specific metarules, and the favorite
>> colors of all players are well-known.
> No.  Spock doesn't know players' favorite colors.  You can only base rules
> on objectively observable characteristics of koans.

That's not a clear diagnosis. The actual problem is that "*your*" favorite
color is illegal; Spock doesn't know who is the guesser at any given
moment! A rule has to come out the same for everybody.

If the favorite colors of the four players are red, green, green, and
chartreuse -- and the Master knows this -- it would be valid for him to
formulate a rule as "Contains a piece in the favorite color of one of
these four people." Of course the players will wind up guessing "Contains
a red piece or green piece", which is equivalent (lacking chartreuse
pyramids). And it would be illegal for the Master to add "blue" to the
valid list, if I happened to sit down at the table in mid-game.
This would only be a valid rule if ALL the players knew each other's
favorite colors.


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