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["Nick Lamicela" <nupanick@xxxxxxxxx>]

The example that springs to my mind is Silent Football. The game has a competitive aspect to it (in some groups) but a good Mr. Dictator (the game's equivalent of a GM) does not play favorites unless necessary (like if one player is being a jerk in the game).

Personally, I like the idea of a system with roleplaying optional but encouraged, especially if there are in-game rewards for good roleplaying (the bonus dice for descriptions of how your character tackles a challenge).

~nupanick (or other appropriate name) 

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On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 11:53 AM, J B Bell <tquidca@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I think the concern about the impartiality of the GM is somewhat misplaced. "Distributor of bonuses and describer of challenges" pretty well describes the role of GM in any challenge-based role-playing game. Arguably this is very much the case in most incarnations of D&D. For more concise examples, check out e.g. Agon or Beast Hunters.

--JB

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 6:37 AM, Sam Zitin <sammyz@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The GM doesn't have much of a point if you are playing strictly for the boardgame aspect, however IF you have a good GM who wants to emphasize roleplaying and forgo the importance of the boardgame then you can have a totally different experience.  I do agree, if you are playing purely as a race to the finish, the GM lacks importance and needs to be REALLY impartial for it to work.  Perhaps some sort of standardized challenges are decided upon by the players as a group ahead of time and voted on for adjudication during the game?  I.E.  players decide Spades = physical fight, Hearts = puzzle or trap, Green = test of faith, yellow = luck challenge and players must argue their abilities to the other players?

On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 12:57 AM, TheLoneGoldfish <thelonegoldfish@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I read over the rules... and the game looks interesting, but I don't
really see the point of the GM.

It seems he's a distributor of bonuses, and describer of challenges.
Which would be fine in a cooperative game, but the other players may
think it's an unfair and arbitrary advantage in a competitive game.

-Evan

On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 11:09 PM,  <jdunaway@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi, Sam,
>
> I'll be happy to check out your new game. I have full stashes of all 12
> colors (at least I will once the pink treehouse set I pre-ordered arrives).
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>> Not quite sure what the protocol is as I've never actually
>> designed an
>> Icehouse game before. How do I go about presenting it to the
>> community? I'd submit it to the Wiki but I am less than adept at
>> Wiki editing.
>> In any case...I'm developing an initial design for a
>> boardgame/flavorlessrpg system using Icehouse pieces and a
>> standard deck of playing cards. If
>> anyone is interested in taking a look to provide feedback or
>> playtest please
>> let me know.
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>> On Friday, December 05, 2008, at 03:01PM, "Sam Zitin"
>> wrote:
>> >Not quite sure what the protocol is as I've never actually
>> designed an
>> >Icehouse game before. How do I go about presenting it to the
>> community?> I'd submit it to the Wiki but I am less than adept
>> at Wiki editing.
>> >In any case...I'm developing an initial design for a
>> boardgame/flavorless>rpg system using Icehouse pieces and a
>> standard deck of playing cards. If
>> >anyone is interested in taking a look to provide feedback or
>> playtest please
>> >let me know.
>>
>> You don't have to be Adept. Put what you have on the wiki, and
>> those who *are* adept will clean it up. :)
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>> Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:12:52 -0600
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>> i would love to play test your game i have a complete set of
>> xeno pieces, so
>> if i need more i wont be able help but if 5 colors are enough
>> then send me a
>> copy and i would love to give you feed back.
>>
>> nic
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Christopher Hickman
>> wrote:
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>> > On Friday, December 05, 2008, at 03:01PM, "Sam Zitin"
>> > wrote:
>> > >Not quite sure what the protocol is as I've never actually
>> designed an
>> > >Icehouse game before. How do I go about presenting it to the
>> community?> > I'd submit it to the Wiki but I am less than adept
>> at Wiki editing.
>> > >In any case...I'm developing an initial design for a
>> boardgame/flavorless> >rpg system using Icehouse pieces and a
>> standard deck of playing cards. If
>> > >anyone is interested in taking a look to provide feedback or
>> playtest> please
>> > >let me know.
>> >
>> > You don't have to be Adept. Put what you have on the wiki, and
>> those who
>> > *are* adept will clean it up. :)
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>> I'll try, maybe I can bring it to the next gaming group I go to.
>> How long is
>> it supposed to be?
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, nic asman
>> wrote:
>> > i would love to play test your game i have a complete set of
>> xeno pieces,
>> > so if i need more i wont be able help but if 5 colors are
>> enough then send
>> > me a copy and i would love to give you feed back.
>> >
>> > nic
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Christopher Hickman
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Friday, December 05, 2008, at 03:01PM, "Sam Zitin"
>> >> wrote:
>> >> >Not quite sure what the protocol is as I've never actually
>> designed an
>> >> >Icehouse game before. How do I go about presenting it to
>> the community?
>> >> > I'd submit it to the Wiki but I am less than adept at Wiki
>> editing.>> >In any case...I'm developing an initial design for a
>> boardgame/flavorless>> >rpg system using Icehouse pieces and a
>> standard deck of playing cards.
>> >> If
>> >> >anyone is interested in taking a look to provide feedback or
>> playtest>> please
>> >> >let me know.
>> >>
>> >> You don't have to be Adept. Put what you have on the wiki,
>> and those who
>> >> *are* adept will clean it up. :)
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>> Don't know exactly how long it will play out to be yet. It's
>> designed as a
>> boardgame that can be expanded into a fast and light RPG system,
>> so some of
>> that will depend on the players. The intent though is that if
>> desired, an
>> entire rpg scenario could be played out in less than 30 minutes,
>> and the
>> "winner" could GM the next round, presenting an entirely
>> different scenario
>> if desired. The game is ready to be perused but probably not
>> ready for play
>> yet as I'm still working out some probabilities to decide upon
>> difficultylevels.
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Nick Lamicela
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I'll try, maybe I can bring it to the next gaming group I go
>> to. How long
>> > is it supposed to be?
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, nic asman
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> i would love to play test your game i have a complete set of
>> xeno pieces,
>> >> so if i need more i wont be able help but if 5 colors are
>> enough then send
>> >> me a copy and i would love to give you feed back.
>> >>
>> >> nic
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Christopher Hickman
>> wrote:>>
>> >>> On Friday, December 05, 2008, at 03:01PM, "Sam Zitin"
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> >Not quite sure what the protocol is as I've never actually
>> designed an
>> >>> >Icehouse game before. How do I go about presenting it to
>> the community?
>> >>> > I'd submit it to the Wiki but I am less than adept at Wiki
>> editing.>>> >In any case...I'm developing an initial design for a
>> >>> boardgame/flavorless
>> >>> >rpg system using Icehouse pieces and a standard deck of
>> playing cards.
>> >>> If
>> >>> >anyone is interested in taking a look to provide feedback
>> or playtest
>> >>> please
>> >>> >let me know.
>> >>>
>> >>> You don't have to be Adept. Put what you have on the wiki,
>> and those who
>> >>> *are* adept will clean it up. :)
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