Cheryl, I totally respect your pov - of course well-behaved children are to be encouragaged to game. I just want to add that sometimes even people (like me) who have well-behaved gaming kids and moreover who don't drink *still* want an adult section. I'd love to patronize a venue that had a family-friendly section and a separate adult section. Whether the open hours are different or not doesn't really matter to me - I can either find a babysitter, cousin/ friend for my kids or bring them and let them play with others' kids... but meanwhile I can stay sober and still cuss and let my hair down.... :) Hi from the other normally lurking Cheryl... :) --- Cheryl Orosz <cherylo@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > First, you are conflating a "family friendly" > environment, which has > freedom from sexual innuendo and four letter > words, with a bad-behavior > zone. Being "family friendly" has very little > to do with keeping kids > from seeing alcohol, as you should very well > know. It has to do with > the sorts of adult behavior that often happens > around alcohol, including > suggestive sexual language and swearing. Share books, share fun! See: http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/cherylllr