James H. wrote: > [...] Goals: > [...] Barry Manilow > (Torah/Music*) You think "Torah/Music" and the first thing that comes to mind is "Barry Manilow"? No disrespect to Mr. Manilow, he may write the songs that make the young girls cry, but his music isn't really "Torah Music". A name for this goal that I think fits in more with the spirit of the expansion would be "Zmiros" (zmirot, z'mirot, ??????). Zmiros are the songs that typically sung after festive meals or services. They are not prayers, though they are sometimes based on prayers. They are also based on legends, history, devotion, joy, scholarship, patriotism, pride, thankfulness, the Sabbath, hope, friendship, family, mysticism, remembrance, or general Judaic themes like the idea that all things are connected to heaven, even a little goat. Some of them are modern, some are old, and some of them are ancient. Zmiros don't get a lot of notice, even among many Jews, but they are a vital part of Jewish culture. -- Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans eeyore@xxxxxxxx