Christopher H. wrote: > The Spock rule allows only objectively observable attributes of a koan to be > relevant. Spock can't passively observe an obscured pyramid, so they don't > exist. Sorry to throw the rulebook at you, but it's only logical that Spock would ask the master a question. http://www.wunderland.com/WTS/Kory/Games/Zendo/Details.html > Asking About Koans > > Players may always ask the Master clarifying questions about the > physical features of existing koans, such as "Master, is that > small green piece pointing at the medium red piece?" or "Master, > which pieces are touching that yellow piece?" These questions > are free and may be asked at any time. The Master must always > answer them, even if they have no bearing on the actual rule. > Students may even ask about a koan before they are done building > it, such as "Master, is this new koan just like this old one, > except that the red piece is now blue?" In all matters of > uncertainty, the Master's judgments are final. Master, does a piece exist under this black 3-pointer? > If a pyramid falls in the forest, and it gets covered up by a > black one, does it exist? :) Answer: It does if the master says it does. =^> -- Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans eeyore@xxxxxxxx PS: The Kirk rule demands the game always be played on a clear table.