> From: "Jorge Arroyo" <trozo@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Maybe it would be easier to migrate to a more modern code base that already > incorporates those Web 2.0 features... Hehe. That's a good one, Jorge! "Migrate" the wiki. Dude, I can't even get an admin to add ONE LINK to the navigation panel; you think we're gonna get the whole thing smoothly migrated with no losses, when a minor JavaScript tweak takes a year? Tilt at that windmill if you like; but I'm gonna go with more BGG promotions and cross-linking. In the end, do any of us need another "community portal," just for one game system? Better the wiki stay stable, provide a repository (or an aggregator: I maintain my own site for my games), and be the place where folks focus commentary on rules and game play not chat or popularization/promotion. As for the seminal comment that kicked off this thread--the competition is "archaic"--I think Jim missed the point. I see the IGDC as a way to do the following: 1) refine new games by having many playtesters' (i.e. judges') eyes on each submission 2) expand the breadth and depth of game types on Icehousegames.org (we got WAY too many "board" games!) 3) promote progressive accumulation of complete Icehouse pyramid collections (hence 2HOUSE, 3HOUSE, 5HOUSE, etc....) 4) leverage pyramids as gaming devices that are distinct from playing cards, building blocks, or existing board game pieces (need more pointing and capping and such) Making new games and getting solid playtesting and feedback will accomplish 1 and 2 and, to the extent that the new games build upon collectibility and pyramidness, 3 and 4. Doing stuff at BGG and other major sites will accomplish 3 even more. The IGDC all-but-forces folks to make new games (it compels the hell out of ME!). If it were gone, and we did all kinds of social networking and ranking and such... what's to fuel NEW game design or design refinement? Peer pressure or something? Anyhow... the IGDC is here to stay, so long as I have the time to promote and organize it (and it really don't take all that much, each comp). If someone can and wants to expand the wiki functionality, be my guest; but take the notion of ending the comp off the table. Iron Game Chef grows every year, in spite of there being thousands of RPGs available.... My $2 (2¢ is for peasants!) David