> From: Doug Orleans <dougorleans@xxxxxxxxx> > I'm confused. Why do you need anything at all from Looney Labs? If > you get all the designers' permissions, you can just publish the book > yourself. I don't even think the term "Icehouse" is trademarked. 1) I am not too sure of that... and I wouldn't use their imprint or graphics without them profiting anyway, copyright or not. 2) If I charge anything above production costs, there's profit. Profit goes to someone (one check recipient). I didn't want to become a clearinghouse for micro-payment distribution to designers (who, actually, had to put a CC license on their games to be considered anyway, if you recall). Thus, I can not profit. Bit the Looneys could, and I'd be pleased if their invention (Icehouse) gained then a few bucks per printed POD book. 3) I am well-aware that I can release my own product--or my own compilation of games I design--for profit or whatever. In fact, if I ever get Stacktors! balanced and finished (*sigh*) I have every intention of releasing it as a single-sheet, laminated product (with a rules booklet, if necessary). But a compilation book is different; it has several--or rather, no--"owners." That said, you are probably right from a legal standpoint. But I'd prefer to put my "David Artman, Editor" mark on a book that is right from my perspective of fairness, which means we designers push our CC games' profits back to the Looneys, the better to support future Icehouse products. David