On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:16:26 -0400, Allen Firstenberg <prisoner@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >To use a simpler example, if I have the rule "all warm" in mind, and you >express it as "only contains red and yellow", then we have equivalent rules, >even tho we have not phrased it the same way. This is why there is a >discussion between the master and the student to make sure they both >understand each other. Cultural externality. 'All warm' is not necessarily equivalent to 'only red and yellow'; suppose I'm playing with all ... eleven? twelve? ... colors. Is orange a 'warm' color? If so, the two rules are not equivalent. Suppose I consider colors 'warm' or 'cool' based on the emissive temperature of a star of the respective color; that makes blue and white 'warm' colors, and red a 'cool' color. Referencing the Spock rule, if expressed as 'warm colors', would he have the same interpretation, and thus mark the koan properly?