On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Jake, I'd refer you to Doug's second point, which I totally endorse. The > rule may be spoken in English, but (so long as it can be expressed in > another language) that does not mean that the rule is dependent on > English. > > If the rule relies on a list of English words, though, then clearly it *is* > dependent on English. The only real argument is whether English is external > to the game, and I agree that that is debatable. > > Agreed, if the rule was: "a koan is valid if it spells (using the system > outlined in appendix A) one of the words in appendix B." then -- supposing > that English is not external to Zendo -- that would be a valid rule. But a > really, really silly one. As has been discussed elsewhere, the rule is equivalent to a rule which says "akhtbni it is a single stack of pyramids who's colors, from top down, are in the set {gorm-oráiste-buí, (and about 70-100 others, depending on specific set of pyramid colors being used)}". Note I used Irish to specify the colors, not English. I hope that's OK. That is not referring to an external Scrabble dictionary, nor to the English Language, either. If a Master was thinking "spells Scrabble words" and the Student guessed my form, the Master would have to admit the enlightenment of the student.