On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Shadowfirebird <shadowfirebird@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > If the rule relies on a list of English words, though, then clearly it *is* > dependent on English. The rule statement relies on a list of English words. The rule does not. > Doug, is light a "physical thing"? Yes! I think Einstein would agree... > How about a computer program? That's not physical, can a rule depend on that? A rule statement can depend on a computer program (or rather, the algorithm that it computes). > Or the date - is the date a "physical thing"? The date is a location in space-time (actually an infinite 3d space whose width in the time dimension is one day), so, yes. > In any case, a book of scrabble words is a physical thing. The map is not the territory... > These are just my opinions. I'm not saying that anyone is wrong to have > differing ones. In my opinion, your opinion is wrong. :) That is, in my opinion, your interpretation of the rules to Zendo differ from the creator's intention. --Doug