Catching up on the controversy a little late, but fyi I'm a Libertarian, and I took no offense at the repitition in the original post. I took it as pointing out that P&T were relying on sources from one 'side' of the debate. Which brings up another point - when having these kinds of discussions, please let's remember that there are usually more than two 'sides' to any argument (I like the reference to "corner" of the issue), and besides which choosing 'sides' (or even 'corners')doesn't help us get at the bottom line (I was going to say truth, but in these kinds of discussions there really isn't any constant truth.) To illustrate, I'm a Libertarian who usually lately votes Democrat. My husband is a Republican Limbaugh fan. When we discuss the issues in our sample ballots prior to voting, we easily manage to agree on the non-partisan races and the referendums. And we agree that recycling is a good thing, because it is a growth industry - the more people do it, the more efficient and 'good' it will be. Cheryl --- ginohn <ginohn@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Jan 30, 2007, at 3:12 AM, Rick Castello > wrote: > > > [John Cooper wrote:] > >> BTW, Penn Jillette is also a research > >> fellow at the Cato Institute, a libertarian > think tank which > >> publishes policy papers and press releases > to further their agenda.) > > > > <snip> > > > > While I've heard the term conservative > used as a dirty curse > > word before (and liberal!), I've never > heard the word libertarian > > used with such distaste before! > > > I only repeated this > phrase to point out how P&T's sources are all > from one corner of the issue. Share books, share fun! See: http://www.bookcrossing.com/mybookshelf/cherylllr