I just noticed (from the "Ask Andy" corner of the Wunderland News) that Andy posted some changes to Zark City in response to some discussions on this list: # Version 1.1 Changes: * If any players begin with nothing but face cards, ALL players draw an extra card until everyone is able to play a Starter card. * Draw: When taking the Draw turn option, discard down to six cards AFTER drawing three new cards. --dougorleans@xxxxxxxxx