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Re: [Icehouse] Spock Rule Violations

  • FromDavid Artman <david.artman@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateThu, 4 Aug 2011 16:33:57 -0400

And Buda Buck wins: Zendo is played without the matter ever stating the bn, just building and marking koans, and displaying stones. The master need never speak to play the whole game. So pedantry about the bn verbiage is moot. Did the master disprove the guess? Yes? Continue play. No? Victory.

On Aug 4, 2011 4:30 PM, "David Artman" <david.artman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Pretty please, with sugar on top? Stop flooding my inbox, ok? The four or
> five of you who still care have each others emails, there's the geeks list,
> there's the (ignorable) forums. Do I have to unsubscribe to be rid of these
> two gyring threads?
> It would at least be somewhat interesting if the critics of the rule
> verbiage offered a rewrite that fixed the perceived (by 1%) problem. The
> original post has been answered, in (at last count) three distinct ways:
> it's a shitty bn that no one would ever guess and would make the students
> quit (master loses); it can be reduced to a valid, non-external rule with
> ~120,000 clauses (taking literally hours to even state); and the koan
> isolation rule is only confused by the most pedantic mastication of the game
> text, which is un-Zen and against the obvious spirit of the game: pleasure
> through collaborative realization, not gamist 'accomplishment'.
> Maybe y'all should switch to Martian Chess...?
> Please find a venue where the participant to audience ratio isn't quite so
> miniscule, OK?
> David

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