My philosophical question remains, is the name of the color of a pyramid considered to be part of a koan?
To me, it isn't. Only the color itself is considered to be part of the koan, whatever one calls it.
--- On Thu, 8/4/11, David Artman <david.artman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
From: David Artman <david.artman@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Icehouse] Spock Rule Violations
To: "Icehouse Discussion List" <icehouse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, August 4, 2011, 1:39 PM-----Inline Attachment Follows-----
I think that y'all are well into a Geeks List discussion, at this point. Consider making new threads there, please. 99% of us have no issues with koan isolation rule; and pushing the rule to be pedantic (or to be a vicious Master) is about as un-Zen as one could be.
DavidOn Aug 4, 2011 2:25 PM, "Nick Lamicela" <nupanick@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> According to wikipedia, Deduction is the process of working from known
> patterns to prove the validity of a statement, so the result is logically
> valid as long as all of the premises are valid. Induction, on the other
> hand, is the process of working from a set of statements to find a pattern,
> but the result may be false even if all the premises are true, because new
> information could potentially contradict that pattern.
> Not to be confused with mathematical induction, which is a bit more meta,
> and consists of proving that a pattern *must* be true in all cases by
> constructing an infinite series of data points that follow the pattern but
> can be shown to be true without knowing the pattern.
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Buddha Buck <blaisepascal@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Shadowfirebird
>> <shadowfirebird@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> > Since the game is about logical deduction based on an iterative process
>> > the master marking koans, then it follows that (if you are playing
>> > the master's rule should be discoverable using only that process.
>> I suggest you read Kory Heath's writings on the design of the game,
>> since this paragraph illustrates some fundamental misunderstanding of
>> the point of the game.
>> Specifically, the game is not about logical deduction, but rather
>> about logical *induction*, a completely different process.
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