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Re: [Icehouse] Spock Rule Violations

  • From"shadowfirebird@gmail" <shadowfirebird@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateThu, 04 Aug 2011 20:56:26 +0100
The only thing it demonstrates is that I get deduction and induction confused. I stand corrected.  My basic point remains.   :)

----- Original message -----
> According to wikipedia, Deduction is the process of working from known
> patterns to prove the validity of a statement, so the result is logically
> valid as long as all of the premises are valid. Induction, on the other
> hand, is the process of working from a set of statements to find a
> pattern, but the result may be false even if all the premises are true,
> because new information could potentially contradict that pattern.
> 
> Not to be confused with mathematical induction, which is a bit more meta,
> and consists of proving that a pattern *must* be true in all cases by
> constructing an infinite series of data points that follow the pattern
> but can be shown to be true without knowing the pattern.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Buddha Buck <blaisepascal@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Shadowfirebird
> > <shadowfirebird@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Since the game is about logical deduction based on an iterative
> > > process
> > of
> > > the master marking koans, then it follows that (if you are playing
> > fairly)
> > > the master's rule should be discoverable using only that process.
> > 
> > I suggest you read Kory Heath's writings on the design of the game,
> > since this paragraph illustrates some fundamental misunderstanding of
> > the point of the game.
> > 
> > Specifically, the game is not about logical deduction, but rather
> > about logical *induction*, a completely different process.
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