> From: Carl Worth <cworth@xxxxxxxxxx> > I like wikis. They're great at what they do well, (the talk page is > excellent for a random visitor to note something while reading, for > example). But I don't think that actual discussion is something that > wiki pages do well at all. Well, yeah, I think the list is better than the wiki for fast-and-loose, unstructured discussion... but a wiki is actually much better for threading debate and archiving it (hiding it away, when resolved) and generally having a lot of powerful tools for presentation of ideas (illustration, much more format control, etc). And I thought the wikis were supposed to draw some of this stuff off the lists, for that reason and to generally enter the 21st Century, information-management-wise? Frankly, I'd prefer (Simple Machine) Forums for both sites, cross-linked from the wiki Nav Panel and from the Forum header. That has the benefit of being opt-in on bandwidth and e-mail storage (rather than receiving every post) and also provides a clear overview of topics, to find only those in which one is interested. Of course... forums suffer from folks not checking them regularly at least as much as wiki Recent Changes pages suffer (which, by the way, is what everyone should check to really stay "current"--it's an overview, too!). E-mail lists (for good or ill) force the information into more frequently checked "bins": the users' e-mail accounts. > I greatly prefer a mailing list where everything comes by, and I can > fairly easily ignore entire threads where they don't interest me. Visually ignore, yes, but not ignore by your mail storage limits or your bandwidth or your time to delete them; you'd have to go to the archives, to really be able to utterly ignore threads... and that's no different than clicking Recent Changes at the wiki, in the end. Anyhow... this is an interesting meta-discussion about where and how to discuss the actual points at hand. Perhaps it should be its own thread, while this one remains here to receive opinions from folks who really can't take the time (or learn) to edit the wiki, to post a reply. Summary: forums are best, wikis a close second (functionally), and lists are lame; but in the end, I just want a consensus on these Procedural points, so I can update the IGDC page and then announce Winter officially (moving Summer info to its own archive page). :) David