> From: "Timothy Hunt" <games@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > No, I think MediaWiki will not allow embedding of images without > uploading them into the Image: namespace ... > You can change the camera angle to anything you like - there's > instructions on how to do it somewhere... So assuming that the transparent background is possible, POVray (merely) serves as a drawing tool which requires code to manipulate. Hmmm... I've already got primitives in GIMP; I'm disinclined to learn a coding language, code each piece orientation, and save to a local file; just to get to the same place I can get with GIMP layers and some fast paint bucket tool work. > From: "Don Sheldon" <don.sheldon@xxxxxxxxx> > Also: SDG's servers are very slow and I wouldn't want to mooch Aaron's > bandwidth like that. Ah, yes, good point. ------ So... for every color (11): -Large, medium, small (3) --Up/N, S, E, W, flat left, flat right, above (7) -Nest, tree (2) --side, above (2) 11 x [ (3 x 7) + (2 x 2) ] = 11 x (21 + 4) = 11 x 25 = 275 images to make, save, and upload. Hmmm... so if I can save out a PNG file for each one every, oh, thirty seconds, I am looking at a bit over 2 hours... plus the upload time, which will probably be another *4* hours--I doubt I can do better than one a minute, with the wiki. That would be a good volunteer thing, actually: volunteer to share the uploading task (I e-mail a subset of the final files to each volunteer). And I won't want to hear *one word* about the choice of colors, scale, or anything else, after all that work! :P Actually, that's where a graphic artist could help: create a baseline palette of high-utility, semi-transparent (if not opaque pieces) color swatches and the "standard" above and side views (as vector art? half-scale to full sized pieces?) which I would then orient and fill and save to PNG. Anyhow... it's just a thought. It's seeming less useful, the more I think about how rarely it would be of benefit (e.g. we can't overlap images without DHTML, so no making multi-color stacks; we can't arbitrarily rotate an image without DHTML, so no odd angles of rotation... or, God, I have to make 45º and 60º etc angle views!) 8O David