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Re: [Icehouse] Zendo rules

  • FromSam Zitin <sammyz@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateTue, 10 Mar 2009 10:21:07 -0500
I almost universally play Speed Zendo these days in which you get
information much faster and the Null Koan doesn't generally gain you
much so I don't care one way or the other.

In traditional Zendo though I find it frequently does more harm than
good as people misunderstand the logic of it.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:17 AM, Joshua Kronengold <mneme@xxxxxx> wrote:
> Christopher Hickman writes:
>>On Mar 9, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Doug Orleans wrote:
>>> Playing With Pyramids says in multiple places that a koan has one or
>>> more pyramids.  The null koan is an obvious variant that lots of
>>> people allow, but I prefer to disallow it because of the ambiguity of
>>> rules like "contains only grounded pyramids".
>>Could somebody explain the ambiguity of this rule in relation to the
>>null koan?
> There isn't any.  It's clearly true for the null koan.
>>Clearly the null koan doesn't contain any pyramids, let
>>alone only grounded ones.  How could anyone think this could be marked
>>anything but no?
> It's obvious.   "contains only grounded pyramids" means "contains
> nothing -but- grounded pyramids" a koan that contains nothing clearly
> contains that is not a grounded pyramid.
> Regardless, I never play with the null koan, because it's expressly
> disallowed in the rules and Kory doesn't like it (and I don't think it
> adds much to the game).
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