My point was it doesn't matter when it occurs in a game chekmate is the end thus end game. TBsr Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: Joshua Kronengold <mneme@xxxxxx> Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 13:13:30 To: <icehouse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Icehouse] Homeworlds Terminology tbaileysr@xxxxxxxxx writes: >But isn't checkmate the quintessential end game? Checkmate != fool's mate. Checkmate is how you win a Chess game. Fool's Mate is: p-kb3 | p-k4 p-kn3 | q-kr4 (mate) And conversationally, similar situations where the game ends in the minimal number of moves. Bluebird is an endgame mistake that involves p1 blowing up half the homeworld of p2 and allowing p2 to win specifically -because- of the destruction of half her homeworld. -- Joshua Kronengold (mneme@(io.com, labcats.org)) |\ _,,,--,,_ ,) --^-- "Did you know, if you increment enough, you /,`.-'`' -, ;-;;' /\\ get an extra digit?" "I knew," weeps Six. |,4- ) )-,_ ) /\ /-\\\ "We knew. But we had forgotten." '---''(_/--' (_/-' _______________________________________________ Icehouse mailing list Icehouse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.looneylabs.com/mailman/listinfo/icehouse