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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Icehouse Game Design Competitions and Icehouse Awards
(Jeff Wolfe)
2. Re: Icehouse Game Design Competitions and Icehouse Awards
(Bryan Stout)
3. Re: Icehouse Game Design Competitions and Icehouse Awards
(Dale Sheldon)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2009 23:44:03 -0500
From: "Jeff Wolfe" <jwolfe@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Icehouse] Icehouse Game Design Competitions and Icehouse
Awards
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> Are you a Origins regular? At this junction, that's probably the main
> qualification for Coordinator.
I have gone to Origins in each of the last five years. Plus, I live in
Columbus, so I could be a local contact if you needed, for example, to mail
stuff to town in advance of the event. But unfortunately, I don't think I
would have the time or energy to be the point person on this.
> I wish we could get a Loony opinion, here. It changes a lot of the concept
> of the Best Of Award, if it is not a Looney event or is not at least
> somewhat addressed or acknowledged at The Big Experiment. And I'd really
> like Andy to be involved in nomination or or both, both for the "cache"
and
> because he's a damned smart designer (even if he like randomness more than
I
> do). ;)
I wouldn't want this to become a Looney thing. I think it should be
community driven. I see it as kind of an event within an event within an
event (y'know, because the Big Experiment itself is an event within an
event). If we could put up a poster, have some copies of the rules (to the
award and the nominated games) lying around, that would be all that we would
need from them. Otherwise, I would love for Andy and Kristen to participate
as fellow fans of Icehouse games, not as Looney Labs.
> > As far as names go, Apex Awards seems an obvious choice.
> Pyramid Pinnacle Prize or just Pinnacle Prize is kind of catchy, too. :)
I've been trying to figure out a way to put the word "Community" into the
name, and I came up with:
Icehouse Community Excellence Awards (aka ICE Awards)
> > If such a thing does happen, who is the sponsoring organization?
> > Icehousegames.org? Looney Labs? Both? Someone/thing else?
Sponsored by the Icehouse community. We would need icehousegames.org for
reference to the rules (although we would need paper rules as well,
especially at Origins). And we would need Looney Labs to let us crash their
party. But otherwise, I think it should just be us.
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 08:40:00 -0500
From: Bryan Stout <stoutwb@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Icehouse] Icehouse Game Design Competitions and Icehouse
Awards
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On the whole, I like your counter-proposals as well as my own
proposals; it's time we get input from several other iceheads.
It's sounds fine to me to have just one rating, plus nominations for
special awards. I like your proposed categories:
> * Most Beautiful To Play is basically also saying "this game will get folks
> to stop and look."
> * Best Brain Buster also points the harder-core players to the really tough
> games (i.e. gives evidence that, nope, not all 'mid games are simple).
> * Best Introductory Game is the opposite: this game is great for demoing
> 'mids or playing with kids.
> * Best Use of Theme still provides an award for conforming to some
> comp-specific theme or what-not (if we even decide to come up with one every
> time).
> * Most Innovative Mechanics is my personal love, because it will push
> designs (hopefully) away from existing mechanics... and a new base mechanic
> can influence another whole wave of derivative games (viz what Martian
> Coasters did).
But if this were done, I think each should have a strong option for
"no award", because again the field is too small to justify an
automatic award each year. Since the theme would change from contest
to contest, "Best Use of Theme" would still be an appropriate title
there; but IMO the others would be better titled something like
"Special Award for {Aesthetics, Depth, Simplicity, Innovation}".
> Are you a Origins regular? At this junction, that's probably the main
> qualification for Coordinator. That and a couple of hours here and there,
> during the run-up, to promote and do some math once votes come in. (IGDC
> Coordination takes longer than writing tthese past two long emails has taken
> me, typically.)
I have been to the past 2 Origins (2009 was my first year as a
Rabbit), and I plan to continue attending.
> I am liking the sound of this more and more....
Assuming you mean an annual IGDC and an annual Awards in conjunction
with Origins, I agree.
Bryan
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2009 11:23:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Dale Sheldon <dales@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Icehouse] Icehouse Game Design Competitions and Icehouse
Awards
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009, Bryan Stout wrote:
> It's sounds fine to me to have just one rating, plus nominations for
> special awards. I like your proposed categories:
>
>> * Most Beautiful To Play is basically also saying "this game [...]
>> * Best Brain Buster also points the harder-core players to the [...]
>> * Best Introductory Game is the opposite: this game is great [...]
>> * Best Use of Theme still provides an award for conforming [...]
>> * Most Innovative Mechanics is my personal love, because it [...]
>
> But if this were done, I think each should have a strong option for "no
> award", because again the field is too small to justify an automatic
> award each year. Since the theme would change from contest to contest,
> "Best Use of Theme" would still be an appropriate title there; but IMO
> the others would be better titled something like "Special Award for
> {Aesthetics, Depth, Simplicity, Innovation}".
Idea: after you play a game, each player can score it (and we just ask
people nicely not to ballot-stuff, just like the floating tournaments); at
the same time they can nominate the game for any number of special awards.
Overall winner is determined by the usual score voting procedure.
Special awards are done as an approval vote (score voting with a 0-1
range; nominated = 1, not-nominated = 0), but we set a minimum threshold
(.5? .75?) which, if no game reaches it, the award is not given.
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Dale Sheldon
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