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["lisa" <NeysaLMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I am adding some questions that a friend taht isnt on the list has asked:

 

Couple of more thoughts on this.  I know he and I spoke during Origins and he was going to re-think the wording, and now need to know:

 Does it lose its Friend status just because it is now a Creeper?  In another words, is it a Creeper-Zombie instead of a Keeper-Friend or is it a Creeper-Zombie-Friend?

 Also, while it is in your hand it is a Keeper-Friend, but what about in the discard pile?  Return from the Dead brings Creeper-Zombies back.  Does it bring back dead Creeper-Zombie-Friends?

 ?

 I am also curious on the Hand Limit rules change.

 Question:  Do you make the choice of whether to comply or not (during your own turn) once or can you choose after each move you make?

 Example #1:

Already on the Table:  Hand Limit 2.  Draw 3.  Play 4.  Currently have no cards in hand.

I Draw 3. 

Choose to discard down to Hand Limit 2.

I play ?Jackpot!?  I draw 3 cards.

Do I have the option to AGAIN discard down to Hand Limit 2?

 Example #2:

Already on the Table:  Hand Limit 2.  Draw 3.  Play 4.  Currently have 2 cards in hand.

I Draw 3

Choose to not discard down to Hand Limit 2.

I play ?Everybody gets 1?.

Can I now choose to Discard down to Hand Limit 2?

 Example #3:

Already on the Table:  Hand Limit 2.  Draw 3.  Play 4.  Currently have 2 cards in hand.

I Draw 3

Choose to not discard down to Hand Limit 2.

I play ?Taxation?.

Can I now choose to Discard down to Hand Limit 2 after each person hands me a card, or do I have to wait until I receive all the cards to make that choice?

 Example #4:

Already on the Table:  Hand Limit 2.  Draw 3.  Play 4.  Currently have 2 cards in hand.

I Draw 3

I choose to discard down to Hand Limit 2.

I discard my first card (from 5 down to 4)

Can I now choose not to discard down to Hand Limit 2?

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy Looney

To: Fluxx Discussion List

Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:56 AM

Subject: Re: [Fluxx] Dead Friends Question

Hi Lisa! Yes, there were a couple of little tweaks I noticed at GenCon that
I wanted to slip in, but we'd already sent the card art to the printers,
and those last couple of corrections didn't get made. So this card should
have the words "on the table" added to make it clear that a Friend Keeper
is still a Keeper in your hand and only becomes a Zombie-Creeper when it's
on the table.

You can't win with a Dead Friend if the goal says no Zombies because it is
considered a Zombie. You can destroy it with anything that kills a Creeper.

--On October 11, 2007 10:48:19 PM -0400 lisa <neysalmd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I remember when playing at Gen Con, Andy had changed the wording on Dead
> Friends so that friends only changed to creepers after they were played,
> not if they were in your hand & that they were changed to Zombies, not
> staying friends... neither of those changes are on the final card,
> though. Andy - did you change your mind?
>
> With the current wording, how do you kill a friend creeper? Does it stop
> you from winning? Is it still a friend? Can it help you with a goal that
> requires a friend?
> What is the actual effect of it?
>
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