I think this is confusing. A clearer term for whichever one is supposed to be faster (was it immediate?) would be "instead" or "simultaneously". So if you have zombie repellent then instead of getting creepers you choose another player to get them. At no time do you actually have a creeper. And you could say that Larry moves as the goal changes, not after. So if a player who meets the current goal has Larry, there is no gap of time when the goal is out and that player has Larry. (I think this is known as a "replacement effect" in Magic the Gathering.) On Jan 7, 2008 4:41 PM, Joseph Pate <jpate@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's a battle of "instant" vs. "immediate". -- Vincent Povirk