<snip text from Josh Pate> One possibly helpful way to look at it is that every goal is snapshot-dependent. If you can take a snapshot that satisfies the victory conditions, even if someone is in the middle of a turn or the middle of a play, the game is over, and the appropriate player(s) [or zombies] win. </snip> If we want to make this idea a standard Fluxx rule, elevating it to the status of canon despite Andy just ruling contradictory to it, I like the idea of calling it the "Polaroid Rule". Seemed like too good a name to pass up. ...or we just let card effects resolve before checking for victory, like nearly every other card game. ---Ryan _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!