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Re: [Rabbits] Donate Games to Ziggurat Con in Iraq

  • FromRebiccola <rebiccola@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateThu, 19 Apr 2007 16:42:24 -0400
I'm confused. If you go to your FLGS, you have to drive and pay for gas to get to the store, pay full price on games INCLUDING tax, drive and pay for gas to get to the post office, and pay for shipping to an APO. What is the benefit to do that other than wider selection? I don't want to start a war here (no pun intended), but I'm just missing your point, I think.
I am assuming (yeah, I know) that LL has enough sense to put in items to balance out the order: if everyone buys treehouse, they'll probably throw in some fluxx.  
Sure if something is coordinated, it might be better. But that would take time and May 5th is coming up fast. I don't see anything wrong with LL charging retail - they are making a donation, and probably won't be pocketing our "extra shipping". Although I would agree that it might be a good idea for LL to take off or reduce the shipping charge on these orders, if there might be "extra".
Besides, I'm so much happier knowing I'm specifically sending Martian Coasters rather than just giving money for a box of LL games.
-Rebecca: feeling warm and fuzzy
On 4/19/07, Timothy Hunt <games@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hey Carol,

I have to say... I think this is mean.  This is for a good cause, right?
But it seems you are encouraging your most loyal customers to pay full
retail price, pay full shipping in the order, each rabbit for
themselves instead providing of a decent way to combine our funds, and
then Looney Labs gets to save money by combining on the shipping!  And
with each rabbit for themselves, there's no co-ordination on what gets
shipped. What if lots of people bought treehouse and no-one bought

The soldiers get their games, we pay full price, and Looney labs makes
a profit from retail and also gets to pocket the extra shipping they
don't pay.

Sorry, but that seems mean.

If the company can't afford to give a discount on games for the cause,
then that's understandable.  But to make a special program that makes
it look like a good thing, but actually looking closer, it appears to
be simply a way to encourage sales while making people feel all warm
and fuzzy about it.

What I would have liked to have seen is something like:
"Hey, if you donate money to Looney Labs, we'll use that money to pay
for a discount order, and once we know how much money we have, we can
nicely split the funds to make sure we get a nice cross section of our
games out to the soldiers there, and we can use your dollars to best

I'm not expecting you necessarily to not make any money at all from
the program, but without a discount, I have no incentive to go to
Looney Labs over my FLGS.  Indeed, without any financial incentive,
I'm more tempted to go to my FLGS as I have a wider selection of games
to choose from.   Yes, as was pointed out, there are bulk discounts
available from LL, but I can't afford an order that size.  If Rabbits
were able to donate to LL somehow, and have you guys figure out how
much product that money would buy at cost (or just above cost, but
certainly below full retail), I would be HAPPY to support the program.


On 4/19/07, Carol Townsend <rabbit-support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi folks!
> If you look on the Looney News today:
> http://www.looneylabs.com/index.html
> ... then you'll see some cool new stuff - including some information about
> Ziggurat Con - the first Gaming Convention happening in a war zone.  The
> largest problem with running a Con in Iraq, of course, is that there are no
> local stores or game publishers. So we decided to help our fans send some
> games to the Troops!
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