On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Carol Townsend <carol.townsend@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Controversy: > Was he the winner? Sounds like it to me. The rules have always been that whenever (exactly) one player meets the goal, they win, instantly. "Hadn't finished his turn" isn't a necessary condition, nor is it necessary (in my opinion) to finish an action. If I were to play "Draw 3, Play 2" and one of the three was a Keeper I needed to meet the current goal, and the other two were goals that would keep me from winning, I would win as soon as I played the Keeper, before (or precluding) playing either of the goals that would keep me from winning. This is much the same. Hmmm, another hypothetical situation: I have no creepers or keepers, but have some in my hand. The Goal is Cheese Shop, so in order to win I have to get rid of my hand without playing the creepers in my hand. I have multiple plays left. I play "Draw 3, Play 2 Of Them" (D3P2). I set aside my hand, and draw "Get On With It" (GOWI) and two {cr,k}eepers. I play GOWI, and since it is "any time before my final Play", I invoke GOWI. Do I win before I draw 3? Do I still have to play the 2nd card from D3P2? > Some of the players said that he hadn't finished his > turn because he hadn't drawn the new hand of 3 cards as "Get On With It" > instructs him to do. Since he was still in the middle of obeying that New > Rule (he'd discarded), he had to finish obeying it (draw the new hand) > before he could look around and see if he was the winner. It's never been > the rule that you wait until the end of your turn to see if you're the > winner (i.e., you win immediately when you satisfy the Goal) but he was in > the middle of the Rule. This is not a convincing argument to me. You meet the winning conditions, you win. > A good argument for "he won" includes the New Rule > "Play All" - once you play something that makes you win, then you win - even > if you're still "in the middle" of following that New Rule. > > Discussion? Ideas? Thoughts? Opinions? > > thanks! > Carol > > > _______________________________________________ > Fluxx mailing list > Fluxx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.looneylabs.com/mailman/listinfo/fluxx > >