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Re: [Fluxx] Cheese Shop and Get On With It!

  • From"Buddha Buck" <blaisepascal@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateThu, 6 Nov 2008 22:07:19 -0500
On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:57 PM, Carol Townsend <carol.townsend@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Controversy:
> Was he the winner?

Sounds like it to me.  The rules have always been that whenever
(exactly) one player meets the goal, they win, instantly.  "Hadn't
finished his turn" isn't a necessary condition, nor is it necessary
(in my opinion) to finish an action.  If I were to play "Draw 3, Play
2" and one of the three was a Keeper I needed to meet the current
goal, and the other two were goals that would keep me from winning, I
would win as soon as I played the Keeper, before (or precluding)
playing either of the goals that would keep me from winning.  This is
much the same.

Hmmm, another hypothetical situation:

I have no creepers or keepers, but have some in my hand.  The Goal is
Cheese Shop, so in order to win I have to get rid of my hand without
playing the creepers in my hand.  I have multiple plays left.  I play
"Draw 3, Play 2 Of Them" (D3P2).  I set aside my hand, and draw "Get
On With It" (GOWI) and two {cr,k}eepers.  I play GOWI, and since it is
"any time before my final Play", I invoke GOWI.  Do I win before I
draw 3?  Do I still have to play the 2nd card from D3P2?

> Some of the players said that he hadn't finished his
> turn because he hadn't drawn the new hand of 3 cards as "Get On With It"
> instructs him to do.  Since he was still in the middle of obeying that New
> Rule (he'd discarded), he had to finish obeying it (draw the new hand)
> before he could look around and see if he was the winner.  It's never been
> the rule that you wait until the end of your turn to see if you're the
> winner (i.e., you win immediately when you satisfy the Goal) but he was in
> the middle of the Rule.

This is not a convincing argument to me.  You meet the winning
conditions, you win.

> A good argument for "he won" includes the New Rule
> "Play All" - once you play something that makes you win, then you win - even
> if you're still "in the middle" of following that New Rule.
> Discussion?  Ideas?  Thoughts? Opinions?
> thanks!
> Carol
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