I just want to jump in here and say thanks to David for the link --
I used to play SF regularly, and took advantage of the site to
grab some Buffy CCG cards as well (yes, I'm one of those Whedon
fans as well)
BTW, the prices aren't terribly higher on Potomac's retail site
-- you can just follow the link if you can't meet the $150 minimum.
Cheers,
Ankhst
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> Well, now that we're on a ramble...
> ;)
>
> > From: "Elliott C. Evans" <eeyore@xxxxxxxx>
> > Actually, it's 4 cents per card (You want to divide the price by the
> > number of cards, not vice versa.)
>
> Two Liberal Arts degrees: $40,000
> Never having to say your sorry for math errors: Priceless
>
> > the price of the sticker sheets and the time you spend cutting,
> > applying, and trimming the stickers.
>
> I though that was a "push," given that we're speaking of re-purposing
> existing cards. You're not considering the new trees that must be
> brutally murdered in their prime, to make PlainCards; whereas the souls
> of those trees that gave themselves to MTG or SF were long ago put to
> rest and forgotten....
>
> > Plus, your deck says "Shadowfist" on the back
>
> What's your point? I happen to like Chinese women doing flying side
> kicks; doesn't everyone?
>
> > and you make Shadowfist designers cry.
>
> I think they all hung themselves back in the 20th Century; but if any
> are still around and getting royalties... well, I don't think they'll
> cry long before heading to the bank.
>
> Besides, SF *is* a cool game; and a full box will set you up with quite
> a few decks and still have, oh, a couple hundred left over for use as
> proxies. IIRC, the game even has a four-card-per-deck limit by the
> rules, so unless you almost *have* to have four of a certain card in
> almost *every* deck... you're gonna have some repeats that you'll never
> use at all.
>
> > 432 Plaincards are only about 7 cents each with blank backs, and you
> > just print out onto the cards. There's a bit of labor in punching them
> > out, but they have nice rounded corners and you can even print out
> > custom backs.
>
> Ah, yes... in color, right? That's, what, anywhere from 10¢ to 30¢ per
> sheet... times two, if duplexed?
>
> (OK, OK, that's a push--gotta print on the sticker sheets to make
> proxies... but not the backs!)
>
> > but their product completes well
> > cost-wise, saves time/effort, and produces nicer cards.
>
> I'll take your word for it. But...
>
> How are they on long-term bleed-through?
> Are they in any way see-through?
> Can they accept laser printing?
> Do they flow well through high-speed printers?
> How ragged are the perforations?
> How many do you lose (tear, crease, smear) per sheet, in disassembly?
> How do they shuffle? How about after a hundred shuffles?
> How much is the clear-coat spray (sold on the site), per card?
>
> > Anyway, just my opinion. Reasoned, experienced, and well informed, but
> > my opinion nevertheless. =^>
>
> And remind us again of what opinions are like...?
> ;P
>
> *tongue out of cheek*
>
> In all seriousness, though, I really do think it's "better" to
> re-purpose existing, heavy duty cards than to build from scratch with
> some kind of perf sheets. Recycle, Reduce, *Reuse*, doncha know.
>
> David
>
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