miyu wrote: > Do you have a link to buy Plaincards online? Yes, and you are going to feel silly when you see it. =^> http://www.plaincards.com/ David A. wrote: > I though that was a "push," given that we're speaking of re-purposing > existing cards. You're not considering the new trees that must be > brutally murdered in their prime, to make PlainCards; whereas the souls > of those trees that gave themselves to MTG or SF were long ago put to > rest and forgotten.... Trees and dinosaurs in your sticker sheets, buddy. > > Plus, your deck says "Shadowfist" on the back > > What's your point? I happen to like Chinese women doing flying side > kicks; doesn't everyone? How do you tell your decks apart> > > and you make Shadowfist designers cry. > > I think they all hung themselves back in the 20th Century; One of them won the 17th International Icehouse Tournament in 2006. > Besides, SF *is* a cool game; Never played it myself, but it does seem like a cool game. > (OK, OK, that's a push--gotta print on the sticker sheets to make > proxies... but not the backs!) You don't have to print on the backs of Plaincards, either; you can get blue or red generic backs. > How are they on long-term bleed-through? Never had any problem with bleed through using printer ink. Markers might be a different story. > Are they in any way see-through? I haven't noticed any see-through with printed backs. They're as thick as decetn quality commercial playing cards. > Can they accept laser printing? I haven't tried, but I don't see why not. The matte finish cards and pattern cards have no coatings on the blank sides. > Do they flow well through high-speed printers? I don't know, I haven't tried. The ones I have are held pretty firmly by the perforations, so they might be OK. There's a newer generation now with different perfs, though, so I can't say. > How ragged are the perforations? The first-gen cards I have have very visible perforations. http://www.ee0r.com/proj/images/mycards-edge.jpg A plaincards representative emailed me last year saying they have updated the product and reduced this problem, but I can't say. > How many do you lose (tear, crease, smear) per sheet, in disassembly? I didn't lose any, but I'm patient letting things dry and folding the perfs backs and forth until the tearing is easy. > How do they shuffle? How about after a hundred shuffles? They shuffle fine and continue to shuffle fine on the decks I've made. They're like commercial playing cards. > How much is the clear-coat spray (sold on the site), per card? I didn't use the clear coat because it wasn't important to me, and I think you need special cards to use it anyway. It's just an acrylic fixative, so you might be able to save money buying locally. > In all seriousness, though, I really do think it's "better" to > re-purpose existing, heavy duty cards than to build from scratch with > some kind of perf sheets. Recycle, Reduce, *Reuse*, doncha know. Let's not forget about the backing sheets for your stickers that you're landfilling, and all the plastic wrap from your retail decks. -- Elliott C. "Eeyore" Evans eeyore@xxxxxxxx