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Re: [Fluxx] Zombie Fluxx Question

  • From"Christopher Onstad" <xofour@xxxxxxxxx>
  • DateSat, 5 Jan 2008 00:16:17 -0800
Hello Joseph,
 It is truly a pleasure to be known by you.  and thank you very much for your response.   On the one hand, I feel bad that you got trumped by the emporer.  on the other hand who better to be trumped by?    Either way, I am incredibly grateful that you put time and thought into my question, and crafted a response.  The variety of responses actually helped me to feel not so bad about asking what I originally thought was a weird and pointless question.  Meaning, I thought the answer was obvoius to everybody else, and I am so glad that other people disagreed with me and each other, showing I wasn't the only one.
The best part of this whole discussion is that you and Carol, and bob, and myself, and Carl are all correct.  While Andy has given his official opinion of how repellent works, and I will accept it because it fits with my view of things.  He also wholeheartedly believes in house rules.  (well judgening from comments) and said he could see the split second victory arguments.   I am just grateful that 1) I dont' feel so alone in my confusion.  2) that several people took an interest 3) we got an official answer and 4) that we can all keep playing in a way that makes sense to all of us.  Isn't that the best result of all?
It was a pleasure to meet you and everybody, and again i thank you for your time and thought and response.
On Jan 4, 2008 1:33 PM, Joseph Pate <jpate@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Christopher:

I think Bob's point is that even though passing out the Zombies could
be considered a "single event", in that you finish doing that before
anything else happens, the word "instantly" is pretty unequivocal,
meaning that as soon as the creeper distributor gives you a card, you
immediately give it to someone else.  Definitely more of a bounce than
a forcefield; if Andy had intended it to act as a creeper barrier, he
would have changed the text to something like "you can not receive
creepers.  Any creeper you would normally get goes to another player
of your choice instead".

One possibly helpful way to look at it is that every goal is snapshot-
dependent.  If you can take a snapshot that satisfies the victory
conditions, even if someone is in the middle of a turn or the middle
of a play, the game is over, and the appropriate player(s) [or
zombies] win.  So, as long as there was a moment when every player
had a creeper in front of them -- even though you were about to give
yours away, the snapshot shows the victory conditions and the zombies
win.  For this to happen, there just needs to be enough creeper cards
to get back to you after the player on your left gets one.

Does that clarify anything?  I'm known to ramble on a bit myself, so
possibly I haven't actually said anything new at all.

Welcome to the list!

        Joe (Ankhst)

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