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Hi Jody,
It looks like you have an interpretation of the
Hand Limit cards that's too limiting (pun intended). Hand Limits do not
mean that players may not *receive* cards over the limit, it just means that if
they do, they discard back down. So, if Hand Limit 2 is in effect, and
someone plays Everybody Gets 1, then every player does indeed get one card, and
then decides which card out of their hand of 3 cards to discard. Except
for the current player of course: s/he may choose to discard down at any point
in their turn.
Regards,
Bryan
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Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 11:32
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Subject: Re: [Fluxx] Hand Limits
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I've always had a problem with Andy's YouTube
situational explanation, because it "feels" unfair. So, while I
can't argue with the wording of the card that it says "may," there's a
serious flaw in the way he chooses to exploit that wording that gives it
that "unfair" aftertaste.
The way I see it, Andy exploits
the wording so that instead of ignoring or observing the rule, he does
both! That's what's unfair
about it. I think there is a principle at work here, very common
in games, that when you are given a choice, you can't ride the fence,
you have to choose and the choice is binding, and the choice must
generally be clear to other players so they can be sure you aren't
cheating. Andy ignores the rule, finds out that ignoring the rule
doesn't work out for him, and then changes his mind. I think I
disagree with James here because I interpret the "rule" as simply not
having any cards in your hand, and the only exception to this rule is if
it is your turn you "may" ignore it. So anyways, Andy draws his
cards, takes them into his hand, organizes them, looks at them and
decides which two cards he likes. How is this observing the hand
limit rule? It isn't! He has cards in his hand, and he even
says "I draw three cards, add them to
my hand..."! He has a hand of 5, not 2, so he should be
considered officially ignoring the rule. At that point he has made
his choice to ignore the rule clear to other players. To my
sensibilities, he can't change his mind and decide, after ignoring the
rule by taking 3 extra cards into his hand, to observe it just because
he doesn't like the cards he now holds. I think the only way to
choose to observe the rule when it is your turn in that situation while
also observing the draw rule is to simply draw and immediately (as the
rule says) discard the 3 cards one by one without taking them into your
hand. But why would you do this? Barring prescience of
what 3 cards are on the top of the draw pile, there would be no reason
to do this, so basically what I'm saying is Andy should have lost that game.
:D
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