On Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 11:32 AM, Jody Chandler
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windblownhermit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I've always had a problem with Andy's YouTube situational explanation,
> because it "feels" unfair. So, while I can't argue with the wording of the
> card that it says "may," there's a serious flaw in the way he chooses to
> exploit that wording that gives it that "unfair" aftertaste.
>
> The way I see it, Andy exploits the wording so that instead of ignoring or
> observing the rule, he does both! That's what's unfair about it. I think
> there is a principle at work here, very common in games, that when you are
> given a choice, you can't ride the fence, you have to choose and the choice
> is binding, and the choice must generally be clear to other players so they
> can be sure you aren't cheating. Andy ignores the rule, finds out that
> ignoring the rule doesn't work out for him, and then changes his mind. I
> think I disagree with James here because I interpret the "rule" as simply
> not having any cards in your hand, and the only exception to this rule is if
> it is your turn you "may" ignore it. So anyways, Andy draws his cards,
> takes them into his hand, organizes them, looks at them and decides which
> two cards he likes. How is this observing the hand limit rule? It isn't!
> He has cards in his hand, and he even says "I draw three cards, add them to
> my hand..."! He has a hand of 5, not 2, so he should be considered
> officially ignoring the rule. At that point he has made his choice to
> ignore the rule clear to other players. To my sensibilities, he can't
> change his mind and decide, after ignoring the rule by taking 3 extra cards
> into his hand, to observe it just because he doesn't like the cards he now
> holds. I think the only way to choose to observe the rule when it is your
> turn in that situation while also observing the draw rule is to simply draw
> and immediately (as the rule says) discard the 3 cards one by one without
> taking them into your hand. But why would you do this? Barring prescience
> of what 3 cards are on the top of the draw pile, there would be no reason to
> do this, so basically what I'm saying is Andy should have lost that game.
> :D
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